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Melancholia > Antichrist > Nymphomaniac
You guys actually enjoyed Antichrist and Nymphomaniac?Antichrist I can still somehow understand, but Nympho?Well - I guess different tastes exist...unfortunately.Melancholia really is the only good von Trier movie...
a couple of the scenes have stayed in my mind from nymphomaniac why "unfortunately" ?
"why "unfortunately" ?"jason, these siddha types are into boys !zakaj is so confused he is probably the only one there who is "sincere"zakaj, you live in a beautfiful country, your preference for complete bullshit assures me you are totally fucked in the head !http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20151031-the-lake-at-the-end-of-the-world
zakaj do you hear the insults ? or do they fall upon deaf ears
what a place
jason, i was annoyed when i came across that, like zakaj was holding back on something, easy to see his bullshit when you look at how beautiful his country is and all he can do is ladel out meaningless crap !
he can't go out into the country, he's got a wife to worry about and a guru to attend to
jason the really disgusting part is i think he lives in a small town near a lovely river down a bit of a gorgelow cost of living, you would like it there !
lol yeah i would
I don't worship Nature!
Andrew - don't you concede too much to the so called exact sciences?In the past, it was the priestly class that was given this honor - when a God-disclosing event occurred the priestly class immediately provided a framework of interpreting it, so that the mystical experience was captured in the snares of the priests...Nowadays we give that to the scientists. Of course, I do not deny the formal correctness of the exact sciences. But the ontological model of reality they presuppose is one that automatically PRECLUDES a genuine "scientific" assessment of mysticism since its core is solipsistic; they rely on a dualism between the observer and the observed. By being a solitary mystic you deny yourself the luxury of having a framework laid out by a lineage of mystics before you, a framework created BY people in/through whom the infinite expressed itself in a similar fashion... you are not alone, but you are stubborn and you insist that you are alone. That is totally fine and even right in a way, but you deny yourself the sweet honey of the siddhas who open sourced their conceptual map of the spiritual landscape!
The "jackpot" is called Śaktipāta https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaktipat
Actually that Wikipedia article is terrible, I made a mistake to post it before verifying its contents... Anyway, Shaktipata aka "Descent of Power" is what the tradition calls what happened to you!
What are some good Slovenian poets, Zakaj?Anyways, I agree with you half-way, Zakaj. I agree with An3drew that writing one's own poetry, from one's own sincere original voice, coupled with daily solitude in natural scenery and genuine life experience, wherein one is not bogged up in relationship drama, are conducive for the flourishing of a true boundless creativity that is aligned with the background of Infinity. This is called "wuji". Wasting time building "crystalline" theoretical structures or getting bogged up in relationship drama distances the mind from Infinity, or wuji, getting stuck in solipsistic prison.Where I disagree with Andrew is his ignorant scientific realism. I recommend looking at this image:https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpl1/v/t1.0-9/11952019_1686971661536453_4675839101029060282_n.jpg?oh=06cdb9127ece39a5650b543a0850c9e9&oe=5719CA8FAn3drew, while being a smart and awakened man, is not infallible. He has fallen for logical positivist dogma that has reawakened in the modern age due in part to the stupid New Atheism movement. Logical positivism was a movement that sought to eliminate metaphysics by reducing all meaningful sentences to either logical/mathematical truths or observation statements, basically scientific realism. Quine did a good job refuting logical positivist dogma in his paper "Two Dogmas of Empiricism" (http://www.ditext.com/quine/quine.html). The problem that this classic paper lays out is that logical positivism assumes that there exists a distinction between theoretical and observational sentences, such that for any theoretical sentence, it is possible to enumerate the observational sentences that would verify it. However, Quine attacks all of that position. According to him, it's not possible to distinguish between theoretical and observational statements, and it's not possible to state a set of sentences whose truth would verify or falsify any given sentence. I think Instrumentalism makes more sense than Scientific Realism, even Derrida did. Check the original image I gave again for definitions.An3drew is totally wack in this area, and I've learned it's better to just not confront him about it anymore. It is better to continue practicing, reading poetry, getting daily solitude, and etc., but leave the metaphysical speculation for some other time. Also, is pea protein isolate good, An3drew, or is it bad?
Zephyr, there is a Slovenian poet I like called Dane Zajc. I don't know how much of his is available translated online. But he teamed with an accordion player and they created this album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hkgLUpPEH4 - Rože noči ("Mouth of Fire") --- listen to it, you'll hear how Slovenian sounds like. It's basically the accordion player, Škof, playing and singing the verses of the poems of Dane Zajc.
I meant "Ogenj v Ustih" as the album name ("Fire in the Mouth" literally) the song/poem is called "Rože noči" (Night-flowers)
. . . Inconceivable is the harvestof beautiful brown eyes,the barren harvestof the unfeeling earthhttp://www.whitepine.org/barren.pdf
Wow Andrew! Good find. Surprised he is translated.
sepehr, you are talking theories of philosophy, i am talking actual physicsinterestingly a corollary of david deutsche's open and closed/unread messages on time like curves changing history is that open messages in the present also change the future, which we know to be true from our experiencehowever you can take the view that the future is somewhat fixed in a similar nature to the past which implies that if the world is too open to messages in the present that life and our world as we know it would become extraordinarily unstable . . historically the open message that religion is bullshit had as a direct consequence the murderous soviet and chinese communist regimes since religion has always acted as a socializing break on the usual human genocidal tendencies, the message was too powerful and actually distorted since usually religion does carry at its heart some sense . . so the fact that you don't seem to take a word of what i write in my "open messages" is part of the the boundary condition of a sort of "metaphysics" maintaining the stability of the worldso of necessity people cannot really take on board what i say and in fact what i say being taken on board must leak out of the future in a limited way, similar to how i take on board the great the minds and writings of the past . .there are physics of reality that do not permit people to understand the mysticism i talk about ! i have no experience with pea protein isolate, could be ok or mightn't be, if you use for a while let us know how it turns out !
one of the best things i've ever read
Jason has a Guru, Jason has a Guru, nana nana na!
you really do
In your worldview, everyone meets the same fate after dying, the nihil or oblivion. Evolution operates based off treating life as disposable, in a blind fashion, and likewise, capitalist system treats life as disposable, something to be discarded when no longer useful in an economic sense. Growing neoliberalism was a consequence of massive intercommunication and so forth, we becoming mere numbers in the cogs of the machine that is based off nothing substantial (i.e., a fiction, the fiat currency). One can see evolution as being similar in that speciation occurs in blind fashion for no greater teleological goal, we just come into life for a brief flash and then nothingness. Our lives in both a social and evolutionary sense are meaningless if there is no greater purpose to it all or at least a kind of semi-after life.Why should Infinity matter to me if there is no greater fruit to it? If we all meet the same fate regardless of glimpses of Infinity, then why should I care? Isn't delusion better then? After all, our lives are disposable.Your belief system is not internally consistent. If Infinity treats my life as disposable, like an indifferent process, then it is best off destroyed.
Even relationships, friendships, accomplishments, etc. are all disposable, all easily discarded, thanks to the madness of Time.
i will never die, others may but i never will !that's because the context that defines death also disappears and without context then what you define becomes a hash !sepehr, why spend your entire life constructing/calculating fake blockchains ?
sepehr you write"Why should Infinity matter to me if there is no greater fruit to it? "yes there is a "greater fruit' and that's what being enlightened in zen is about, it's for you to discover and not keep blinding yourself with the acres of continual crap that you think passes for "working something out"
Zephyr, have you studied NŚT ? ( nondual śaiva tantra? aka "kashmir shaivism" aka trika etc)there's a story of a student in this lineage coming to a guru, the Guru was talking about Godthe student was in a depressed state that day and complained to the guru: "if God created this piece of garbage of a world , why doesn't HE come down and live in this shithole he created?" and the Guru replied: "...and who do you think YOU are?"isn't that a nice story?
"... and WHAT do you think YOU are?"
zakaj, your guru has a message board, i have seen it, why don't you post there ?if only you could take sepehr with you !that would be three retards/losers on one message board ! :o)your guru has some sort of sex scandal in his past, maybe you could investigate, be sympathetic he needs something to enliven the sheer boring crap he pushes !its such a basic thing, same with sepehr, why are you posting here and not on the boards consonant with your belief systems ?because they are peopled by crazy boring farts and this board is authentic and interesting ?why not think about the inconsistency ?
"if only you could take sepehr with you !"Haha! "your guru has some sort of sex scandal in his past"Where have you read this?"because they are peopled by crazy boring farts and this board is authentic and interesting ?"Because this blog is fun, and your writings are fun and interesting."why not think about the inconsistency ?"But you are right. There is an inconsistency.I'll reflect about that these next few days.
zakaj, your quote of me"because they are peopled by crazy boring farts and this board is authentic and interesting ?"**Because this blog is fun, and your writings are fun and interesting** zakaj's commentok, your reply avoids mentioning me as authentic, so you don't regard me as authentic, in which case i am asking you not to continue posting here, the problem is really i just don't have the time and want to reduce the number of posts here so i can get out of "message board ptsd"what you should do to the get the guru crap out of your system, is set yourself up as a guru, you don't need to understand shit, just to be young and good looking is enough, you'll get your audience, you organise and lead retreats with occasional talks, do some by skype ?look at how much work it is to answer your post thoroughly, i can't afford the time so please take this as walking you out of what is really a private blog !
zakaj queries something i wrote"your guru has some sort of sex scandal in his past"my r e p l yhe mentions it in a buried post, doesn't mention what it was, but he is argentinian which is a very macho culture so most likely its the usual shagging of an attractive young woman !
sepehr the nature of existance is a pyramid and goes like thisuncountable universes one or a tiny few of which are capable of supporting the evolution of life for some limited durationlife evolves into conciousness of sufficiently high phi to create populations which have at some extremes defective neural mechanisms that in certain circumstances can synchronize and be in identity with infinitynotions of "rebirth" are for retarded children !