Tuesday, 27 August 2013



  1. Hey, Andrew, what do you think of Graham Priest's inclosure schema in relationship to emptiness?

    Check this out:

    The essay begins by positing everything lacks a determinate character (i.e., they do not have an underlying essence that comes to rigidly define them) due to it dependently originating (i.e.,defined as emptiness, 'Shunyata', in Buddhism). Emptiness denotes things always arise in relation to something else, understood in relation to something else, and lack a determinate nature due to both co-dependent origination and impermanence. Accepting either impermanence or co-dependent origination, or both, causes an inclosure schema, as explained here:
    o The article goes on to claim emptiness is their ultimate nature.
    o Consequently, not even this statement can be claimed to possess any determinate character! It lacks an ultimate nature.
    o It is empty of essence and independent reality,and thus, nothing can be said, even that all phenomena are empty. Nor its negation.
    o We can’t even say that nothing can be said. But we just did. And we have thereby characterized the ultimate perspective, which,if we are correct in our characterization, can’t be done.
    o From the conventional perspective, this can be discussed: the relation of the ultimate to the conventional. It can be pointed at. "All things have one nature, that is, no nature." All phenomena are empty, and so ultimately have no nature. But emptiness is, therefore, the ultimate nature of things. So they both have and lack an ultimate nature.

    "All things are empty by virtue of not having a nature. However, if things are empty, then they have no nature, and so they are not things. Therefore, there is no thing that has the nature of emptiness. Therefore, any thing that is empty is not empty."

    ‘‘If you know the nature of one thing, you know the nature of all things.’’
    Khensur Yeshe Thubten

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  2. I need to improve my eyes to read poetry online. I really like focusing more on physical books though, so I'm going to read Emily Dickinson and discuss her with you. I think reading poetry is better time spent than wasting time with verbose articles, like the one I linked.

    Do you have any other poetry books to recommend me purchase? I want to read one poet at a time though, so is starting with Emily Dickinson the best?


    1. you really need to get your eyes sorted out, imo you need a special prescription of glasses (plastic lens to reduce the weight !) so you can use a monitor easily !

      imo the best way to read Emily Dickinson is to use the google image search on "Emily Dickinson handwriting" and similar so you can see her handwritten poems and start to work out what she was trying to say !

      in my booklist and copious writings I have plenty to say and make plenty of recommendations, you seem to be stuck in a tidy, wanting to have a nice list of things to do stage, that of course will never be done

      zen people seem to ignore practical things like sorting out vision problems and VERY especially Dietary needs so one can think straight :o()

      my honest experience is unless the diet and health side is sorted out it's all hopeless !

      health is hard work, like the day before yesterday i donated blood for the 13th time for what is essentially a phlebotomic process and i seem to do better with lower iron levels, it's not straightforward and knocks me about a bit, but on balance offers considerable benefits like lowering iron in the retina ............... you just have to keep working on it, it's unending and when we lose the ability to do this sort of work, the end starts to come...............

      you have limited time so I would suggest you just get stuck into the usual messy process we all have of doing something and the remainder of our lifetime it takes to move through that ! : o()

      so discuss something, not how to do something :o)

  3. Btw, do you like cats, Andrew?

    1. to understand cats, you need experience with the feral !