Wednesday, 2 March 2016
burnt
i really am feeling burnt by researching sepehr's suggestion of the book "the hospice" by robert aickman, its entertainment and wrong minded, this sort of swill is endless and it actually hurts to go into it . .
so what do i do ?
do i need a public message board at all, the reality is i don't, i am available by email or reddit nick, when i deal with people individually its easier. .
the basic problem with the public board has always been because of the way i feel the need to deconstruct the erroneous viewpoints, so there's just this ongoing burden that i am now finding too damaging, people following their interests which are peripheral to mine, zakaj is an easy example because he is so clearly in the gabriel pradīpaka camp, totally bizarre but i am not in the business of remedying his mistake, this is it, people really have their own views and the energy required for deconstruction to keep this public message board sane is just too much for me !
so i am suspending the comments section in two or three days, after that i will permit comments as i feel suitable which at this point will only be people asking for contact information or having an important announcement !
so in effect this blog ceases to be a public discussion board . .
one of the factors in this decision has been observing blogs or facebook pages of people who give retreats and that sort of thing, they also have this issue of the discussion running away in directions that are negative for their reputation and quite involving if they care to step into the fray . .
so its just like a general issue and i'm not into fixing the world at all if it were even possible ! :o)
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You have to finish reading The Hospice. It's a complex story, I even wrote an analysis of it, which I could give if you want. The whole story is about how there is no bottom turtle, or a lack of a foundation. It's pointing to how social organizations or mass crowd try to avoid looking at the illusion of their comfort, which their affectations maintain the illusoriness of.
ReplyDeleteThere's a reason the middle is long-winded and goes nowhere. It adds to the effect of the ending. It has fast pace in beginning, super slow pace in middle, and then picks up near the end. Don't read the summaries of it, actually read the story.
It's basically like Melancholia where its beginning was super slow for a reason, but the middle is sloer.
The Hospice was not entertaining at all.
i stand by my judgement of it !
DeleteDid you read it? Researching is not a substitution for reading the actual piece.
DeleteI'm going to watch The Kingdom directed by Lars von Trier soon, btw.
like zakaj, you are just not getting the solitude in and our ways have parted, the perspective is too different !
Deleteat my age i have been surprised to move so distinctly ahead of you both, but there it is !
I've been home alone for about a year or more. I'm schizoid, so I don't really see most people. The issue is, I get too much solitude. I have no friends.
Delete"The issue is, I get too much solitude."
Deletefilms, books and the net are not solitude
I walk outside my house all the time and relax.
DeleteGetting solitude in the woods is dangerous. There are a lot of rednecks here with guns.
Zephyr - the bottom turtle is the Kingdom of God.
Deletesepehr, just about every night i turn all the lights off, no computer and am just under my red headlamp for several hours, when i can i get outside into the lovely night . .
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ReplyDeleteat the end of the day i have had quite a bit of practical experience with real life religion , teachers, centers and am a lot more cynical and jaded than you are about the vocabulary and people
Deleteyou don't vote with your feet so you are never going to see that and will remain stuck !
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Deletezakaj he's only interested in the girlies
Deleteno doubt he has some "identity with physical bodies" routine
you are a willing "connee"
maybe he's in a stable relationship in which case he's just a f o o l !
you are voting with your feet and spending your time here, can't you see that is your real judgment ?
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Deleteits just standard hindu cliche stuff, out of date and he's just another guru wannabe, maybe he gets some funding from it ?
Deleteit will be like brad warner, operating in a sixties or seventies time warp, there was money in it then, now they compete with every housewife and her enlightened dog !
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Deleteok so he gets an income to translate sanskrit, so he's really an academic in an unorthodox way !
Deletethat's where he's at and i know in your heart you don't buy into it, but it serves your purpose which is to keep you from investigation and deconstruction of yourself . .
sepehr does the same with media, anime, films etc
let me be clear that i am not saying either of you should do otherwise . . my life has limped through so many disasters i sometimes think i should have remained some clone in a job . .
but you both have clear ceilings, there can be made no argument from me in terms of you not remaining below that ceiling, so to protect myself from further wasted time the public message section of this blog will be closing dwon
zakaj, you sound ridiculous, even worse than my phase with explicit memory which I've gotten over.
DeleteYou need to take a step back and realize how ridiculous this is. You were far more erudite and aware awhile back.
You cannot give a closure to your existential turmoil by placing it in silly goals like learning Sanskrit and organized religion.
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Deletean3drew, we cannot like all of the same artwork. We like a lot of the same stuff, but we don't like all of it, ofc. I agree with you solitude and nutrition are important, but I don't have to agree with your authoritative attitude about what constitutes good and bad art. You haven't even read what I've recommended and you are insulting me.
DeleteYou really need to rectify such a belligerent attitude, man. You act like I was recommending something on the level of Twilight.
Just because Robert Aickman's short story "The Hospice" has some influence from Thomas Mann's The Magic Mountain does not make it bad. It's not plagiarism, it's just a minor influence, and you haven't even read the damn thing.
I think our fundamental disagreement is that you have a more hippy attitude to nature whereas I am more real. When I was alone in the woods, it feels more like Algernon Blackwood's The Willows or Lars von Trier's Antichrist rather than some hippy interpretation of bees and Emily Dickinson la la land.
The whole world is a decrepit, recursive vine infested house of Usher and it is collapsing. Why should I love Infinity? It is pure terror.
DeleteCharles Bukowski, 'Beasts Bounding Through Time'
Delete"Van Gogh writing his brother for paints
Hemingway testing his shotgun
Celine going broke as a doctor of medicine
the impossibility of being human
Villon expelled from Paris for being a thief
Faulkner drunk in the gutters of his town
the impossibility of being human
Burroughs killing his wife with a gun
Mailer stabbing his
the impossibility of being human
Maupassant going mad in a rowboat
Dostoyevsky lined up against a wall to be shot
Crane off the back of a boat into the propeller
the impossibility
Sylvia with her head in the oven like a baked potato
Harry Crosby leaping into that Black Sun
Lorca murdered in the road by Spanish troops
the impossibility
Artaud sitting on a madhouse bench
Chatterton drinking rat poison
Shakespeare a plagiarist
Beethoven with a horn stuck into his head against deafness
the impossibility the impossibility
Nietzsche gone totally mad
the impossibility of being human
all too human
this breathing
in and out
out and in
these punks
these cowards
these champions
these mad dogs of glory
moving this little bit of light toward us
impossibly."
My response:
Bierce disappearing in Mexico
Poe deliriously writhing in the streets of Baltimore
Lovecraft dying penniless
I'm glad to no longer be human
And you should too, Bukowski
For we have swallowed the scathing light
We beasts abiding in darkness
"The whole world is a decrepit etc"
Deleteok that's well written !
well pure horror, joke, terror, stupidity . .
the other side is we in our limited life spans can know infinities beauty, itself as itself, that's what this work is all about . .
"We beasts abiding in darkness"
Deleteexcellent poem !
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ReplyDeleteYou're an idiot. I don't like An3drew comparing me to you, seriously. This post is the most retarded thing I've read in awhile.
Deletezakaj, i have to agree with sepehr, you are out beyond pluto or something, a really weird stupid space, but others in your life will be telling you . .
DeleteI tossed a pearl to the swine!
DeleteAfter studying Richard Carrier, I think people are retarded to ever have believed in a historical Jesus in the first place. It's so fucking obvious, lol. There is just a lack of evidence. The early epistles and Paul treat him as a celestial being that people know through divine revelation, and the Gospels were altered a lot in the beginning by early Christian rival sects to give the impression of Jesus being a historical figure (i.e., "Euhemerism"). Tacitus, Jospehus, and Tallus are not reliable evidence too for obvious reasons. Also, there are way too many parallels to the death and resurrection savior gods to take the Jesus myth seriously.
ReplyDeleteDo you have the link arguing that Buddha was originally a tree shrine God? Thanks.
the argument for buddha being a tree shrine god is that the character is clearly fictitious being so incongruous with real life so you are merely looking for an explanation of the context in which it arose
Deletetree shrine worship has always been endemic to the area and the deepest level of excavation at the supposed birthplace of buddha, lumbini, has uncovered a tree shrine !
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/11/131125-buddha-birth-nepal-archaeology-science-lumbini-religion-history/
islam also has an issue with the earliest koran being dated as written before muhammad's maturity
the way i approach it is jesus, buddha and muhammad's lives are utterly asynchronous with the way the world works and "real" prophets like mani have lives and meet a fate much more typical of the way the world and especially religion works !
a belief in the physical and historical reality of these hagiographic supermen (zen also pedestalizes its "masters" in its stories in a more limited way) implies "gods justice" which is actually contrary to the way the world really works ie 'the good die young !"
another chronic distortion of reality is the belief that an underworld heavy, illiterate and uneducated like william shakespeare could have written those plays !
sir henry neville and his so interesting life fits the bill exactly as the real author and not only is congruent with, but illuminates the way reality really works !
Also, I was referring to Ambrose Bierce, not the other Bierce you linked.
ReplyDeleteAmbrose Bierce was a good writer who disappeared in Mexico, and we didn't know how that happened. He was like a more cynical, witty version of Poe.
yeah, he's very interesting, that link is in fact what happened to him !
Deletehttp://donswaim.com/bierce-lienert.html
shot as spy !